[Etheryte]

[twinbee]

[Isick]

I am going to say this one last time simply and clearly.

"Anything you can do in whatever program you are using can be done in Photoshop. It may not be in necessarily the same way or utilize the same number of button presses, but anything that can be done in any program can be accomplished in Photoshop."

If you want I will start to recreate the images you want as soon as I post this and will post my finished product. I will also count the steps if you'd like.

[Isick]

Again... I see no NEED to have colored brushes. It may save a couple minutes here and there, but I, along with many other designers, would probably not use it.

[Raven12388]

you know!! everything any other design/art program can do photoshop can do, the problem you got is you want it as easy as possable.

To be honest if everything was as easy as possable there would be no need to learn or have any talent.

mabey photoshop does not have this tool as easy as you want it but it can be done and on top of that as you have said your self it is more powerful than any other program you have ever used .

This is why its a designers #1 choice, so it is really a dead issue and to be honest it is getting very old this thread and never deserved 2 pages in the first place your time would be much better spent learning to use PS correctly than keeping this thread from heading to page 101.

anyhow i hope you learn to love PS its a shame if you dont

Regards
Brian

[Etheryte]

First image: You in your program 12 steps - Me in PS 10 steps (and all in one layer as asked).

For You see: It all really depends on how you use a program. The point being: Adobe doesn't want to add much new gadgets to Photoshop, because the program is already very complex. New large features are preferred, as the gadgets can be achieved by using the large features.

[twinbee]

[rachjm]

Wow - this has become quite a heated debate!
Glad you're all still keeping it friendly...
I have used a similar function in Corel Draw and I'll admit it would be handy if Photoshop had this feature.

But, as the others have pointed out, none of these designs are impossible to replicate without the custom colour brush tool, and Photoshop outstrips these other applications overall.

Perhaps you could use a combination of a number of programs and so have "the best of both worlds"

[Etheryte]

They're all easy to reproduce, and just as fast (or faster) as I proved my point. You just need to know the program and your way around it.

[twinbee]

Etheryte, I would still appreciate if you can at least say that the last three are quickly reproducible in PS. In particular, the last one seems impossible in PS (the twisty, shrinking wooden one). I doubt even the "atmosphere" one can be done in a quick second, but if it can, I would be interested to know how.

Also, since it's only 10 steps for the green/blue egg pic (bearing in mind that a step is etiher a mouse click or a key press), that won't take long to write out. Just do the first five steps if you like.

[Isick]

I would make the atmosphere one easily with the smudge stick. Just crank it up really high and set the strength to 100%.

The wooden bridge, admittedly, would not be an easy step process.

My whole point is that there is no practical use to this effect other than for creating an abstracted image, but if I wanted an abstract image, I probably would use one more geared to crazy abstraction than some brush tool.

I feel like Photoshop has everything it needs to have to meet all of a designers needs. It's not a perfect program (I don't like how the cursor disappears over a gray surface), but it has the tools it needs. I am sure everyone would like if the Photoshop makers entered a tool that would do their taxes for them and notify them of important dates, but those things aren't a necessity of design. While it would be an intense exaggeration to compare this brush tool to a built in calendar in terms of usefulness, my point stands that neither are entirely needed.

[rachjm]

This topic is going nowhere.
If it's REALLY necessary to settle on who's right and who's wrong then take a poll or something

[twinbee]

[Isick]

I understand that it is a cool feature and I am sure it makes for a cool effect. But you seem to be completely avoiding my point that it does not benefit photo editing or graphic design at all.

I tell you what, if you can find me a visually appealing digital design that has one of the brush editing feature you speak of I will admit that it could serve as a benefit, but until I see it used in a meaningful way I am going to retain my position that it is nothing more than just "neat" to have.

[Etheryte]