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Adding a second image to the first.

Postby goomba on Tue May 29, 2007 3:57 pm

I'm new to Photoshop (CS2) and am not sure if that would be the correct Subject, but here goes.

I have an image (say of a car). I would like to place a second image onto the same document as the car (let's say a motorcycle), side by side, or one above the other etc.

I've tried to do this, but when I do so, it looks really hokey. Also, (in some cases) I've used two photos that are different sixes. For example, photo one is 640x480, while photo two is 1024x768. How can I do all this magic stuff?

Thanks in advance and I hope I asked this correctly and am not portraying exactly how inept I am.

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Postby ElectrifieD on Tue May 29, 2007 4:07 pm

If you're asking how to resize them click on the layer with the picture and hold CTRL+T and then hold SHIFT while dragging the corners
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Postby goomba on Tue May 29, 2007 4:18 pm

I don't hink that's what I want ElectrifieD. I tried that and the image is moved, but it is not side by side with the first one.

Let me try this again. I have an photo. To that photo I want to add a second one to the (say) right of it.

IMAGE1 -> IMAGE2.

Also, I think I need to mess with the photo sizes, cause IMAGE1 may be 840x480 and IMAGE2 is 1024x768 (or something similar). When I try to add the second image by cropping, cutting and pasting it's just a mess.

Thanks again for the assist.

BTW: The TUT link is excellent...
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Postby tombothetominator on Tue May 29, 2007 9:55 pm

so are you looking to blend the backgrounds of the 2 pictures, or are you looking to cut out one object (the motorcycle) from it's background and place just the cycle on the car's background?

As far as sizing go: some people will give you really in depth sizing answers, and for professional results; resizing makes a lot of difference in quality. If you are just looking for messing with the images, you can open one image go to image size (CTRL+ALT+I or Image Menu - Image Size) and resize one to fit the other. Or you can use the method electrified mentioned after you have placed the motorcycle into the car background. Select the motorcycle layer, CTRL+T then hold SHIFT and click+drag one of the CORNER dots to resize it.
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Postby Rmpl on Wed May 30, 2007 2:07 am

It sounds like he wants to put a motorcycle in with a picture of his car but it doesn't look real. He wants to know how to make it look photo-realistic. I'd like to know too, as I've tried things like that and I can never get it to look quite real.
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Postby Isick on Wed May 30, 2007 2:54 am

All you need to do to make it look realistic is (in all simplicity) match scale and lighting.
Just cut the motorcycle out of the first picture (take your time and get as close to the edge as possible. What I like to do is, once I make the selection, I contract everything back a pixel or two just to be sure I didn't get any of the background) and paste it into the second. Scale it down using the transform command (Ctrl-T). Once it is the right size, tinker with the lighting by altering the levels (image-> adjust-> levels) and the Contrast (image-> adjust-> Brightness/contrast) to get the darkest parts and lightest parts of the motorcycle to match the darkest and lightest parts of the car, respectively.

If the sun in one image is a different part than in the other it is more difficult to get them to match, but it is possible if you know how to work the dodge/burn tools and various effects correctly.
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Postby tombothetominator on Wed May 30, 2007 2:35 pm

Good call Isick. For a lot of people, cutting out an opject is one of the hardest parts, so i would recommend taking a read through this tutorial: http://www.melissaclifton.com/tutorial-pentool.html

Other than that, like Isick said, its all in color/light matching. If the motorcycle has a very yellow hue, and the car is under a more blue light, then on your motorcycle layer due a hue/saturation adjustment layer and reduce the saturation of the yellow hues, and up the saturation of the blues (just until it matches).

It all depends on how perfect you want it to look.
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Postby goomba on Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:36 am

Hi all. I think I'm getting the jest of this. What I've done is open the first image. Create a new doc and size the canvas (I make it large, but I think I'll figure this out too).

Anyway, once I have the new doc and 1st image opened, I copy the image and past it in the new doc (not sure if I should just past or paste into???). Continuing on, once this is done, I open the second image, copy it and paste it. So far so good (I resize and adjust before copying and pasting).

Now this is done, how do I make the two align side by each. When I paste the second one (just paste) I can't move it to where I want it.

If I do a Paste Into, there is always a gap between the right side of the first image and the left side of the second image. Again, I can't seem to move either image to align. Perhaps I'm making this too difficult for my new and limited experience. But I'd like to be able to.

I'm getting there folks, a lot of playing but learning as I go.

Again, thanks for all the assist and I appreciate any additional insights.

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Postby goomba on Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:55 am

YOUZER! :)

By George, I think I Got It. Still needs work, but a combination of the tips on this site as well as this link:

http://www.bluesfear.com/tutorials/Blending.htm

really helped a lot.

All I need to do now is work on the blending and I think I'll be well on my way.

Again, thanks to all. This is a great forum.

Cheers.

ps: any other hints, tricks or techniques are always welcome.
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Postby Excruciating on Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:32 am

If you feel like showing us a process image or the finished result please do so.
You can upload images at http://www.imageshack.us
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