Help With 3d logos

i've found this logo site that i like, just wondering if anyone knows were they made in illustrator..

http://www.pixellogo.com/search.php?mod ... display=12

for instance i know how to do this one in illustrator

http://www.pixellogo.com/product.php?pr ... t=0&page=5

but therest im haveing trouble with...

can anyone suggest tutorials. or were they made in a 3d program or photoshop. i ready want to be able to make them in verctor.
cheers

I dont do Illustrator, but I can show you the technique of that second link using Photoshop (should work in Illustrator too).

Take a look at these tutorials, and you will get the idea:
http://www.devppl.com/tutorial/14240/
http://www.devppl.com/tutorial/8322/
http://www.devppl.com/tutorial/13805/