NEWBIE QUESTIONS: Xubuntu or Debian
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siege
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 Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:06 am Post subject: NEWBIE QUESTIONS: Xubuntu or Debian |
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| Ok... so here it is. I got this idea in my head the other day that it would be nice to break into the Linux world more than I do now. Currently the sites i develop for clients are all hosted on the LAMP platform. I am interested in creating my own linux based web server from any old box sitting around. I do not know linux commands and was wondering whats the right distribution for me? I came across Xubuntu or Debian and have liked what I saw. Debian however seems to have a higher learning curve. Any suggestions for me? |
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nighthawk
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: NEWBIE QUESTIONS: Xubuntu or Debian |
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I don't like *buntu at all, there is my post somewhere on this forum about how easy it is to crack ubuntu's password.
Debian is much better, it is more stable, one version lasts longer (there are no new versions each month or two), and has more functions than *buntu. Many (if not the most) web servers are based on debian. If I'm not wrong you get everything you need for your server in one package.
Xubuntu is definitely better than ubuntu or kubuntu for a web server, it has much less eye-candy graphics that just uses your CPU for nothing good. It doesn't have any of the server applications so you would have to install them manually. I think ubuntu server edition is better choice than xubuntu, but I recommend debian. |
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siege
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: NEWBIE QUESTIONS: Xubuntu or Debian |
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Passwords are always a thing to be mindful of and I appreciate your response. Are there steps on Debians site how to achieve what Im looing for?
The only reason I was considering Xubuntu is b/c of this articlehttp://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2007/06/05/build_your_own_server/1
Im actually going to be administering this from Mac OS X
I will be starting from the very beginning:
I want to build a computer using things from new egg
I want to start off with the least amount of problems, any other recommendations - things to watch out for? |
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leonard
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:14 am Post subject: Re: NEWBIE QUESTIONS: Xubuntu or Debian |
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Hey siege, I'm probably a bit too late with this answer (I've just registered and its my first post  ) and your webserver is probably up and running by now, but here are my comments anyway:
A few years ago I started exactly as you did, by installing a Linux distribution on a private low-end PC to use as mail- and webserver. I chose debian and I am still fond of it.
I have documented all my steps in a personal readme-file which I later put on my website. If you are interested, here is the link:
http://www.chew.ch/leonard/software/debian/
The scratch-installation parts up to chapter 6 might be a bit old (most of it is still from the woody-release), but I have kept the later chapters up to date.
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| I do not know linux commands |
If you dont know linux-commands (I guess u mean shell-commands) it will probably not be easy, but I think it's worth learning. I have never installed any graphical stuff (at least not on my server), because the less stuff you have running, the more stable your system will be. I mostly configure my systems simply by using an ssh-shells (with PUTTy).
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| I am interested in creating my own linux based web server from any old box sitting around |
It is a good idea to set up a Linux server with an old PC just for the fun of it and to test the whole stuff, but for productive purposes I strongly recommend to rent a virtual-server from a professional hoster.
Here are the reasons:
- You have a high availibility (e.g. no wife/children/mother being able to unplug your server. Yeah, you're laughing, but that happened to me! )
- You have a static IP-Address (e.g. no dynamic DNS-registration needed because of IP-change, and your IP is not blacklisted in RBL's)
- You do not have the same IP-Address as your server when surfing around the internet. (assuming that your home-server is behind the same router you are, any webmaster of sites you visit can reverse-lookup your IP address and, depending on your web-content on your server, get personal information)
- Depending on what your requirements are, a virtual server costs around 20euro per month, which is not much more than the electricity-costs of your server at home.
- A virtual server normally comes with two or three free ftp-backups and a working restore-button in the administrative-console .
- A hosted virtual server does not hinder you (due to the net-traffic) on your own PC when it is busy with up- and downloading stuff.
I have tried out three server-hosters myself (two virtual servers and one dedicated server. All from Germany) and of what I know, I recommend:
http://www.hosteurope.de/
(this is also the only hoster I know of where you can quit your contract online)
Oh well, I guess I was blabbering too much already  .
Anyways, have fun!
Cheers!
- leonard |
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