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Postby Excruciating on Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:44 pm

Okay, problems I think ..

I'm a bit confused. I'm running this same question at another forum.
The RAM you've chosen won't work will it?

DDR = AMD
DDR2 = Pentium

And the MOBO doesn't support crossfire?
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Postby johneva on Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:21 am

Why wont the RAM I chose work?

The MOBO is DDR2 and so is the RAM I chose.

Yeah your right after taking another look over that MOBO it dont have crossfire support, if you want crossfire support from an Asus board you will need the same MOBO I have got by the looks of it.

Asus P5WD2-E Premium Intel 975X

It is another £50 though.

It runs aon a much better chipset though and got a few other good features that the other board dont have, it also support the Pentium extreame editon procs aswell if you ever decide to upgrade to one of the procs.
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Postby Excruciating on Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:59 am

I don't mind paying a little extra if it's well spend. Wich it sounds like it is.
Can I run two graphic cards, an over clocked PSU (probally not much because I'm such a p****), without having it overheated, burning or even being able to run at all, with all the extra electricity it will need (will the PSU provide that?)?

and oh yeah, I think a CD-ROM disk would come in handy.. Anything specifik I should be looking for?
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Postby johneva on Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:28 am

Right if you do plan on running crossfire in the future as you just mentioned power becomes a new problem and there are only certain PSUs that are recommended for crossfire setups the 700watt version of the FSP epsilon being one of them.

Here is a good article on that PSU.

This even even more money again the one I first recommended to you was the 500 watt version for £58 this 700watt version is £112

Then as I mentioned earlyer in this thread at nerly £300each for the graphics cards your talking serious money.

Heat should not be to much of a problem as the Graphics cards exhuast most of there heat direct out though one of expansion slots in the back of your case, also aslong as your case has half deasent cooling then it will keep the case temp at a reasonable temp.

As for which cd-rom drive to get not a clue matey I have never got one I have only ever bought a Sony CD/DVD Dual Layer ReWriter for £25 and dont think there is any real diffrences between makes anyways.

Looking at it Overclockers only do the one CD-ROM drive and that is Samsung for £10

It is always a good idea to search for reviews on a product in Google or something before getting it though as if there are any well know problems you should find out by doing this.

Aswell as doing what your doing now and asking for advise on forums just dont alway belive all you read put a bit of research in too, some people will give advise based on opinion and not fact sometimes and not make this clear when they tell ya.
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Postby Excruciating on Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:08 pm

Okay, I'll make sure to keep that in mind.

Will I ever need two graphic cards.. Isn't it just showing off?

If the MOBO is able to run newer Graphic cards, I'll just upgrade when it's needed..
I think it's a bit more reasonable..
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Postby johneva on Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:42 pm

It depends just how good you want it to perform graphics wise there is quite an improvment running Crossfire, As you then have two GPUs and two sets of onboard RAM. But really to be honest just the one of the top of the range cards is plenty good enough, as you say I think it is just willy waving unless money is no object then fair enough.

The other thing is of course running two top end cards unless the rest of your machine is some kinda monster then it will only bottle neck anyways.
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Postby Excruciating on Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:15 pm

I'm just sticking with that MOBO then.
Even if I have to replace the GPU later I believe it will be cheaper than having to medi-good graphic cards.
Also because, the producents always needs to keep in mind, people need to have money to buy theese things.

Only thing that conserns me not is that overclocking.
I just want my computer as strong as possible for the money I've given.
And as you've said, your not sure if overclocking will work with that MOBO.

I think I'll go post a topic in a really nerdy forum (like this isn't :P) when I have all the parts I want (in one month).
Not that you've not helped, you really have.
I'm a lot more sure about this now :D

Thanks a lot for all Johneva
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Postby Excruciating on Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:50 am

Just came to my attention..

What about a sound card?
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Postby johneva on Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:34 am

Right sound card there is a 7.1 dolby sound card in the MOBO if you want a dedicated sound card you can get a cheap one for £20 pointless the one on the MOBO is better or if you want to go wild you can get a really good one for £80+

As for the overclocking you can overclock with that MOBO I was just unsure wether it had the CPU multiplyer unlock as this makes overclocking an Intel much more effective.

After looking though the manual for the MOBO I first suggested no it dont have the CPU multiplyer, you will have to go with either the MOBO I got or the cheaper of the SLI boards also have CPU lock free feature too.

You can get a lot more details about the product by clicking on more details when looking at parts in Overclockers UK most of the time it then takes you to the manufactures websites page for that product.

Yes definatly ask around and get a few diffrent opinions and as much advise as you can before spending any money, even more so as I am still very much a newbie really matey, I have only been using computers for about 14 months now and spent most of that time learning web design. But as you say at least you have learnt quite a bit just from what we have covered so you know a bit more about what you need to look for. ;)

These forums I found very handy for Hardware advise.
http://www.ocforums.com
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk
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Postby Excruciating on Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:59 pm

Hmm, I hope this topic will end soonand I hope you can help me out again JohnEva.

As it stand now, I don't have as much money as I'd like to. Somewhere around 1000 Euro to build this pc.

I think my screen just fryed (it's an old piece of excellent crap, weighs a ton and there's hardly room for it on my desk). Or even worse.. a big bad meanie virus ate my computer.

This means I'll have to get my new pc sooner than calculated. Like now!
Also, I think I'll need to buy a new screen.. I've heard something about flat screens.. Slim but silky to the touch.. err.. anyways, I can figure that out myself.

Okay, .. I'm just going to say it, John (or someone else), would you please do me a BIG favor and make a list what I can get for around 1000 euro?... It's still for gamin and if I can upgrade it later it would be great!.. Don't mind if I can overclock it as well (seems to be a great way of saving some money..)

I know you've already posted one list (and it's greatly apreciated).. but you said the prices on Intel would go down or something?.. Did they do that?
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