Porgram I found

[Ash]

Take a look at this I found at download.com

[johneva]

Yeah theres loads of um about there are better packages than that one though and cheaper.

You dont need to spend money to get a good search engine rank anyways.

Check out this site I am working on.

http://www.lease-hire.co.uk

Then check out the search engine rank for these keywords on each of the search engines.

Contract Hire
Lease Hire
Contract Hire UK
Lease Hire UK
Car Contract Hire
Van Contract Hire
Car Lease Hire
Van Lease Hire

I have only been working on the site in the last 2 weeks and this is a competitive part of the market but yet I am getting some exellent results and havent spent a penny.

All I have done is adjust the keyword meta tags and made a few changes to the coding and content of the page.

Then submitted to as many free directorys as possiable and exchanged links with lots of sites too.

[Ash]

One day I like to make a website that alot of people come to or find interesting and have a high page rank but I don't know what on yet?

[johneva]

You can still use good SEO techniques on all sites.

But yeah unless you plan on providing infomation or are selling something you are never going to get much traffic to your site.

[Ash]

Thats just too right. I have had 4 java applet chatrooms and they all failed.