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[Rex]

Hi there,

I have been using PS for many years, having scanned my film. Now I'm shooting with a D300, so life should be easier.

All my nef files need a bit of work in ACR but when opened in PS, they look like they have a sheet of thin tracing paper over them. I can remove the veil, but then the image does not look zappy.

On the other hand, jpgs look cleaner but as soon as I do any adjustments (levels, curves, saturation, etc) the histogram shows data loss.

As I submit to photolibraries, I really need to be working in tif, but as I say, the images fro ACR just lack bite.

Is there something that I'm doing wrong or is this just the way it is?

Thanks

Rex

[Jerryb]

hi,
unfortuately ido much with acr with raw files since i only have a point and shoot...
are you trying to edit jpg files in acr? or editing a canon raw file in acr?

just so we know where were starting off from ...

i have a feeling your editing jpg in acr mode (that a seperte window ... ok...
i don't understand this part about tracing paper , may need for you to
upload a screen capture of what your seeing.
masybe alittle composit on what it initially lookslike in acr and in photoshop
for the most part... when i open either a raw or jpg file and imagine same for tif..

in acr mode ... image come up ok and i can do my editing and see before and after(preview checkbox) when adjusting all the various sliders..lol ... smiling...

so i am thinking that maybe your looking in wrong place or misinterpreting or your settings need
to be adjusted...

i don'tknow if this usefull to you but was to me..
http://www.geofflawrence.com/photoshop_raw.html plus there other link at bottom of page

[Rex]

Thanks for your reply and link. The link was quite interesting although I feel that I'm reasonably familiar with most of the areas covered.

When I say 'tracing paper', I don't mean that the image is washed out and flat, it just benefits from increasing the contrast with (usually) Apply Image. It's like a very thin veil is lifted and the clarity and definition improves.

But jpgs don't seem to require this. My question really is, why do jpgs require little to no additional PS tweaking but RAW files do?

Rex

[Jerryb]

hi,
I don't seem to have that issue....

when you open your jpg in camera raw
possiblyit your settings or youhave done some editing (in acr) with that
before and the acr program will remember the settings...

one scnerio i see...
1. in photoshop it basically when you open the image you get what ever the picture is.... no modifications yet
2. however in acr... when that brought up there a couple of setting
that may take effect immediate... for example the "white balance" how is your setup , there 3 choices generally i default to "as shot" or custom or auto?

3. also if you have done some acr on a jpg image... when you reopen it will remember but can click the "dafault button that will bring it back what it looklike initially, providing you didn't do any further editing and resave to jpg ...

if it not one of those above then would need to look closer at default settings in acr...