Vectors and cleaning edges advice please

[fotojunkie]

Damn

When i apply overlay temple 2 fades with the vector dot

which means im still painting on the temple 2 Grrrrrrrr

i also looked at the white vector mask window while i was painting

that black dot om temple 2 , i seen no evidence of activity there

also below this is a path-temple 2 vector mask , i seen no

activity there either , even when i clicked on it to make it active ?

Gotta get some sleep cuz the work week starts in a few hours

This kinda thing can keep me up for days

Thanks and thanks again

[jerryb]

hi,

on the layer pallet the top half should look something like this...

curve adjstment layer
black and white adjustment layer
temple 2 with mask
curve adjustment layer with clipping
black and white adjustment layer with clipping
temple1 with mask
curve adjustment ..

now one thing i noticed and it could be the fact that i have cs1 (or maybe the guy for got to say) ... and i could not apply the clipping mask to the adjustment layers (like yo can with cs4) ... what i had to do with with temple 2 mask... instead of using a black brush i used a white brush to paint out the bottom part of the temple 2 so that top part of temple 1 would show....

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now another thing i noticed... is that ok when i assign a vector mask i get the results you were talking about and that is when painting with a black brush i get no indication on the mask thumnail that it painting black!! however.. when i choose a layer mask (not a vector) i get the appropriate results!!!! so i am starting to wonder if for temple 2 he mean a layer mask instead of a vector mask...!!!

sometimes it can get confusing especially the fact on the tutorial your starting the top of the page but your pallette is in reverse order.. smile.. it easy to get turned around..

OK

been pluggin

Tomorrows Monday..damn

does it matter where in layers palette i paste Temple 2 ?

Following tutorial mine always ends up between paper and temple

1 , the paper blocking temple 2 for most part
Maybe this is my error ?

Thanks

[jerryb]

hi,
my last post to you should hopefully has some answers or modifications that will work....

oh yes these tutorials can get involved and confusing if the authur is not reall clear and concise.....

however.. when you finally finish.... you'll wonder why it took so long.. and in the process you will learn a lot.. in fact just helping you out i have learned a few things.. smiling....

Damn

When i apply overlay temple 2 fades with the vector dot

which means im still painting on the temple 2 Grrrrrrrr

i also looked at the white vector mask window while i was painting

that black dot om temple 2 , i seen no evidence of activity there

also below this is a path-temple 2 vector mask , i seen no

activity there either , even when i clicked on it to make it active ?

Gotta get some sleep cuz the work week starts in a few hours

This kinda thing can keep me up for days

Thanks and thanks again

[fotojunkie]

ur onto something with that layer mask or vector mask idea

but it still works out to be applied directly onto temple 2 again

just more transparent , and in white ...i havent changed

colour palette either , and everytime i paste temple 2

and transform , another copy of temple 2 appears under it

Yipes

i gotta rest now b4 my head cracks LOL

Thanks

[fotojunkie]

PS

curve adjstment layer
black and white adjustment layer
temple 2 with mask
curve adjustment layer with clipping
black and white adjustment layer with clipping
temple1 with mask
curve adjustment ..

is this the order of things after step 2 is complete

and what part needs to be blue/active when i past temple 2 in ?

i saved in psd from step 2 being complete thats where i keep restarting from

Thanks

[jerryb]

hi,
this is getting awfull interesting grrrrrrr...

i don't know what is happening.... with the vector mask i am getting the same results as you.. even thought vector mask is active when i paint with the black brush the black goes on the image and nothing shows in white thumbnail....

been expereiementing and a solution but i don't know how it will eve the rest of the tutorial step down the line....

but any way.. what i did, delete the vector mask, in layer pallette right click on the temple 2 tutorial and delete vector mask and......

then i added a "layer mask" at tht point i was able to use the black brush and i could see the black on the white thumbnail and at the same time see the bottom fade out like it suppose to ...

for now that works.... I will probably be playing around some more with temple 2 with vector mask to figure why it acting the way it is with just this temple 2 step ...... but none the less the layer mask results works according the way the tutorial laid out..

Damn

When i apply overlay temple 2 fades with the vector dot

which means im still painting on the temple 2 Grrrrrrrr

i also looked at the white vector mask window while i was painting

that black dot om temple 2 , i seen no evidence of activity there

also below this is a path-temple 2 vector mask , i seen no

activity there either , even when i clicked on it to make it active ?

Gotta get some sleep cuz the work week starts in a few hours

This kinda thing can keep me up for days

Thanks and thanks again

[fotojunkie]

still at work here

snuck into email LOL

well at least i know im not alone on this thing

i thought i had gremlins or was bonkers

how about that temple 2 doubling itself after

i rotated it another temple appears underneath

do u have 2 create vector then delete it is that a

precise step

i tried layer mask , just b4 i went to bed

it still appears on the temple 2 and when i hit overlay

temple as well blends and fades

also paint is white in layer mask LOL tho i have black chosen

Maybe the tutorial is just wrong or messed up or bad

communication skills or i dont know

there has 2 be better easier ways to get hose fx

it sems like simple clouds or ligts from a lower layer

hmm....

but im stuck on this because i hate giving up LOL

thanks

[jerryb]

hi,
no yo don't have to create the vect and then do the layer...

all i was saying instead of using the vector mask
try using the layer mask....


i am not sure you mean by temple 2 doubleing.....

you should only be seeing temple and temple 2!
you say double.. are you sure you didn't accidently duplicate the temple 2 layer .. in that case you would see 2 temple's in addition to temple 1 ..

now you mentioned hitting overlay.. why.... in the tutorial after the temple 2 is positioned and such.... they have you then add the 2 adjustmen layers and then they ahve you apply "multiply" to the temple 2 layer ..

still at work here

snuck into email LOL

well at least i know im not alone on this thing

i thought i had gremlins or was bonkers

how about that temple 2 doubling itself after

i rotated it another temple appears underneath

do u have 2 create vector then delete it is that a

precise step

i tried layer mask , just b4 i went to bed

it still appears on the temple 2 and when i hit overlay

temple as well blends and fades

also paint is white in layer mask LOL tho i have black chosen

Maybe the tutorial is just wrong or messed up or bad

communication skills or i dont know

there has 2 be better easier ways to get hose fx

it sems like simple clouds or ligts from a lower layer

hmm....

but im stuck on this because i hate giving up LOL

thanks

[fotojunkie]

Ya

as soon as i rotate temple 2 theres another temple below it

If i rotate that one a 3rd appears etc.....Odd i know

Rotating seems to duplicate it

Im closer now tho , despite that new oddity

i use layer mask and now see the dot being applied

But when i choose blending mode Grrrrrrrrrrrrr it still takes the

temple 2 with it

Whenever u make a move action , the order of things changes in layers palette

So when it says Set the blending mode of this “Temple 2″ layer to “Multiply

The keyword to me is THIS , how many are there suppose to be ?

And which does he mean , ( i have a similar question from earlier where

he says past temple (2) onto our document , but above which layer ?)



Holee S$%^ LOL

im gonna have tea and come back from scratch .....

Thanks again for hangin in there

[jerryb]

hi,
now remember were talking about blending... multiply has notheing to do with duplicating thing... all it does is make things a little darker!! for example if you have medium greys.... well multiply will make that a dark grey....

now i am assumming.. that yo do have the temple 2 layer hilighted...
ok this bothers me that when you move the temple 2 or rotate it you see additional temple 2's!! it almost as if... yes your moving the object but the orginal is left behind...

sounds like there a pc performance or graphic card issue or maybe some sort of setting issue.....

let check a couple of things...
1. tell me what your systerm stats... including weather you have a integrated graphics and if so how much ram it uses.. or if you got a dedicated graphic card how much onboard ram....

2. after you rotate the temple 2... if you save (even though see 2 or 3 temple 2's. and then close the file and then open up the file again.. are those duplicates temples 2' still there.... ????

3. also you may try this to increase performance..
a. defrag your system.. sometimes a heavily fragment system will lower the performance of the pc and also can cause problems with programs.... so defrag can cure a lot of ill's...
b. what you might do also... is go into your msconfig.exe disable all startup except your virus scanner..... and then reboot the system.... this will have the effect of it will regain you more ram mem for your programs, also performance is boosted because you don't have a bunch of needles programs startup and running in the background, and the third less likely hood of those program interferrring with the main program your using...

there a couple of other things i am going to check with my cs1 ...... but will see if find anyting...

Ya

as soon as i rotate temple 2 theres another temple below it

If i rotate that one a 3rd appears etc.....Odd i know

Rotating seems to duplicate it

Im closer now tho , despite that new oddity

i use layer mask and now see the dot being applied

But when i choose blending mode Grrrrrrrrrrrrr it still takes the

temple 2 with it

Whenever u make a move action , the order of things changes in layers palette

So when it says Set the blending mode of this “Temple 2″ layer to “Multiply

The keyword to me is THIS , how many are there suppose to be ?

And which does he mean , ( i have a similar question from earlier where

he says past temple (2) onto our document , but above which layer ?)



Holee S$%^ LOL

im gonna have tea and come back from scratch .....

Thanks again for hangin in there